Andrew Painter
21-Year-Old
60-Day IL
Injury Elbow
Est. Return 2/1/2025
2024 Stats
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0-0
ERA
0.00
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0.00
K
0
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2024 Fantasy Outlook
Painter seemingly had a chance to spend most of his age-20 season in the Phillies' rotation, but his elbow started barking early in spring training and he ended up getting Tommy John surgery in late-July after months of attempted rehab. At the time of his initial early-March injury, Painter was arguably the game's best pitching prospect, and he could regain that title once he's fully healthy. However, given the time of the surgery, it seems highly unlikely he makes his big-league debut until 2025. He could make some rehab starts in late-2024 and could potentially pitch in the Arizona Fall League. Painter will still be just 22 for the 2025 season, so he's not behind schedule. It's roughly a 90 percent success rate for pitchers Painter's age who need the surgery, and there were no skill-related concerns with the 6-foot-7 righty the last time we saw him healthy. He has frontline upside long term. Read Past Outlooks
Added to AFL roster
Painter (elbow) will pitch for the Glendale Desert Dogs in the Arizona Fall League, Todd Zolecki of MLB.com reports.
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Painter began throwing off a mound in July as he works his way back from Tommy John surgery and the Phillies have decided to send their top pitching prospect to the AFL so he can face hitters prior to the offseason. It will be his first game action since 2022. Provided he makes a full recovery and regains his pre-surgery stuff, Painter is a good bet to contribute in the majors at some point in 2025.
Painter began throwing off a mound in July as he works his way back from Tommy John surgery and the Phillies have decided to send their top pitching prospect to the AFL so he can face hitters prior to the offseason. It will be his first game action since 2022. Provided he makes a full recovery and regains his pre-surgery stuff, Painter is a good bet to contribute in the majors at some point in 2025.
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2023 Fantasy Outlook
Painter, a lean 6-foot-7 righty whom the Phillies selected out of high school with the No. 13 overall pick in 2021, dominated Single-A hitters (35.6 K-BB%) across nine starts to open his first full season. It was noteworthy, but many pitchers with command of complete arsenals (four pitches led by 70-grade upper-90s fastball and plus slider) cruise through that level of the minors. However, prospectors really started taking notice when Painter didn't skip a beat after promotions to High-A and Double-A. His walk rate actually fell from 10.7% at Single-A to 4.9% at High-A and 1.8% in 28.1 innings at Double-A while his strikeout rate remained above 33%. He led qualified minor-league starters in WHIP and K-BB% and ranked second in ERA and won't turn 20 until April 10. A distinguishing factor for Painter relative to some of the game's other top young pitching prospects is that he threw six-plus innings in eight of his 22 starts and completed seven innings three times. The idea of a pitcher this young making an impact in a big-league rotation will be hard for some to buy, but Phillies president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski brought Jeremy Bonderman and Rick Porcello to the majors as 20-year-olds when he ran things in Detroit, and the Phillies have a top-heavy rotation with room for a fresh face in 2023. Sometimes when teenagers dominate like this across their first full-season, the encore can be disappointing (Forrest Whitley, MacKenzie Gore). Jose Fernandez's 2013 rookie season is a best-case example. If Painter picks up where he left off this spring, the notion of him winning a rotation spot out of camp will start to gain traction and the market will react accordingly.
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Throwing off mound
Painter (elbow) progressed to throwing off a mound in Clearwater in July but will not return to game action until the 2025 season, MLB.com reports.
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Not expected to pitch until 2025
Phillies president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski said Wednesday in an interview with Sports Radio 94 WIP Philadelphia that he doesn't expect Painter (elbow) to pitch in games this season.
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Getting Tommy John surgery Tuesday
Painter is undergoing Tommy John surgery on his right elbow Tuesday in Los Angeles, Todd Zolecki of MLB.com reports.
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Tommy John surgery recommended
The Phillies announced Wednesday that Painter (elbow) has been recommended for Tommy John surgery.
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Tests reveal encouraging results
Manager Rob Thomson said Saturday that tests on Painter's right elbow revealed healing in his UCL, Matt Gelb of The Athletic reports.
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Could win rotation spot
Painter could win a spot in the Phillies' Opening Day rotation with a strong showing this spring, according to Matt Gelb of The Athletic.
ANALYSIS
Painter won't turn 20 years old until April and has just five starts above A-ball under his belt, so at first blush the notion that he could head north with the major-league club seems far-fetched. However, Gelb believes the Phillies won't deny the talented youngster if he looks ready and that it's a question of when, not if, Painter contributes in 2023. Painter is arguably the top prospect in baseball, having posted a 1.48 ERA with 155 strikeouts across 109.2 innings through three levels in 2022.
Painter won't turn 20 years old until April and has just five starts above A-ball under his belt, so at first blush the notion that he could head north with the major-league club seems far-fetched. However, Gelb believes the Phillies won't deny the talented youngster if he looks ready and that it's a question of when, not if, Painter contributes in 2023. Painter is arguably the top prospect in baseball, having posted a 1.48 ERA with 155 strikeouts across 109.2 innings through three levels in 2022.